Two years ago this was the question. Both the Memphis Grizzlies and Boston Celtics – the two teams with the worst records in the NBA – were dreaming of Greg Oden and Kevin Durant. And accusations were flying that at least the Celtics were doing whatever they could to land one of these two talents. Unfortunately, the lottery gods failed to smile on Memphis or Boston. After the lottery balls stopped bouncing, neither team was able to land one of the top two slots in the draft.
Boston and Memphis after the Lottery
Despite this misfortune, one could argue that both of these franchises did better – at least in 2007-08 — than the teams that won the lottery. The Boston Celtics – who had the fifth choice in the 2007 draft – used that selection to trade for Ray Allen. The acquisition of Allen led to the trade of Kevin Garnett, and in 2008 Garnett led the Celtics to the NBA championship.
An NBA championship remains a distant dream for Memphis fans. The Grizzlies won only 22 games in 2006-07 and matched that record last year. In 2008-09 the team has 20 victories after 74 games, so the team doesn’t appear to be any better (and in terms of efficiency differential it’s actually getting worse). But if we focus just on the 2007-08 campaign, the Grizzlies did better in the draft than the two teams that actually ended up paying Oden and Durant. With the fourth selection the Grizzlies took Mike Conley. Conley finished last season with 1.5 Win Produced. Although this level of production is quite low, it was actually more than twice the combined production of Durant and Oden.
This year Conley is even better. After 74 games Conley has produced 6.7 wins (only Marc Gasol with 6.8 Wins Produced has more on the Grizzlies). And with a WP48 [Wins Produced per 48 minutes] of 0.147, it appears the Conley is developing into a sold NBA player.
Despite Conley’s rookie year production (again, double what Oden and Durant did together) and his leap forward his sophomore campaign, one suspects most fans of Memphis would rather have Durant or Oden today. And the numbers – at least the Wins Produced numbers — agree.
Oden and Durant in 2007-08
It should be noted, again, that Durant and Oden didn’t offer much in 2007-08. Obviously Oden offered nothing since he was hurt the entire season. Durant did actually play. But despite being named Rookie of the Year and nearly being a unanimous choice for the All-Rookie team (selected by the coaches), Durant’s play – as detailed in Kevin Durant was not the Best Rookie — did not result in many wins. When the season was over Durant had only produced 0.7 wins with a 0.012 WP48.
The initial returns on Durant and Oden contradicted the pre-draft hype. And these returns also contradicted the college numbers these players posted (see Looking Back at the NBA Draft, Part Two).
The sophomore years of these two players, though, remind us why teams were so anxious to acquire the services of of these two players.
Oden and Durant in 2008-09
Let’s start the 2008-09 story with Durant.
Table One: The Oklahoma City Thunder after 74 games in 2008-09
As Table One indicates, after 74 games the Thunder players have combined to produce 23.3 wins. Of these, 9.6 of these Wins Produced can be credited to Kevin Durant. And his 0.178 WP48 suggests that Durant is now one of the better small forwards in the NBA.
Before we get to Oden, we should note that Jeff Green — the player the Thunder took with the Celtics 5th pick in 2007 – has also improved. Unfortunately, he’s still below average. The below average story would also be told about most players in Oklahoma. Once you get past Durant, of the eleven players who logged at least 500 minutes, only Nick Collison has been above average. This is why, despite the play of Durant, the Thunder are still not very good.
A different story is told about the Portland Trail Blazers. Portland is currently second to the Lakers in the Western Conference (albeit a distant second) in Efficiency Differential (offensive efficiency minus defensive efficiency). When we look at the individual players – reported in Table Two – we can see why Portland is likely to win 50 games this year.
Table Two: The Portland Trail Blazers after 74 games in 2008-09
Like the Thunder, eleven Blazers have logged at least 500 minutes. Unlike the Thunder, though, the majority of these Blazers – six to be exact – have posted above average WP48 marks (none of these are named LaMarcus Aldridge). One of these above average players is Greg Oden. Injuries have caused Oden to miss 21 games. Despite missing nearly one-third of the season, Oden has produced 4.8 wins and posted a 0.199 WP48.
Answering the Question Today
So Oden and Durant are above average. But let’s go back to the original question. Who would a team rather employ today? Continue reading →