Why Melo has no place in the All-Star game

Last years numbers are from the Wins Produced Section of this site. 2012 numbers come courtesy of the NBA Geek!

The All-Star game starters were recently released. In a perfect world fans would be rational and analyze what made certain players contribute to their team successes. However, we live in an irrational world where Amare Stoudemire gets MVP votes thanks to Landry Fields’ play and Melo is considered All-NBA while greats such as Marcus Camby and Andre Miller are bounced from team to team. I decided to take a closer look at who should have been selected for the All-Star game if fans were more rational.

Last year matters

All-Star voting is open from the start of the season. This season was also condensed so certainly last’s years performance has some impact on who belongs in the game this season. Let’s do a quick rundown of our All-Star candidates based on how they ended last season.

West All-Star Worthy Guards (2011)
Player MP WP48 WP
Chris Paul 2865 0.309 18.5
Steve Nash 2497 0.244 12.7
Jason Kidd 2653 0.213 11.8
Manu Ginobili 2426 0.204 10.3
Andre Miller 2650 0.174 9.6
East All-Star Worthy Guards (2011)
Player MP WP48 WP
Dwyane Wade 2824 0.253 14.9
Landry Fields 2541 0.237 12.5
Rajon Rondo 2527 0.235 12.4
Ray Allen 2890 0.204 12.3
Derrick Rose 3026 0.161 10.2

Here’s how our forwards looked.

West All-Star Worthy Forwards (2011)
Player MP WP48 WP
Kevin Love 2611 0.335 18.2
Pau Gasol 3037 0.234 14.8
Zach Randolph 2724 0.212 12.1
Lamar Odom 2639 0.212 11.6
Gerald Wallace 2693 0.177 9.91
East All-Star Worthy Forwards (2011)
Player MP WP48 WP
LeBron James 3063 0.270 17.2
Paul Pierce 2774 0.195 11.3
Kris Humphries 2061 0.254 10.9
Andre Iguodala 2469 0.212 10.9
Kevin Garnett 2220 0.226 10.4

And finally here’s how our centers looked:

West All-Star Worthy Centers (2011)
Player MP WP48 WP
Tyson Chandler 2059 0.268 11.5
Nene Hilario 2291 0.208 9.9
Chuck Hayes 2079 0.206 8.9
East All-Star Worthy Centers (2011)
Player MP WP48 WP
 Dwight Howard 2935 0.301 18.4
 Al Horford 2704 0.203 11.5
 Greg Monroe 2222 0.192 8.9

This year’s stars

Let’s compare our crop from last year with who was on top this season. Numbers from The NBA Geek through February 3rd 2012

West All-Star Worthy Guards (2012)
Player MP WP48 WP
James Harden 673 0.269 3.8
Chris Paul 539 0.323 3.6
Ricky Rubio 797 0.215 3.6
Kyle Lowry 740 0.230 3.6
Steve Nash 620 0.263 3.4
East All-Star Worthy Guards (2012)
Player MP WP48 WP
Jose Calderon 808 0.207 3.5
Landry Fields 733 0.215 3.3
Ray Allen 597 0.259 3.2
Derrick Rose 749 0.179 2.8
Jeff Teague 758 0.168 2.7

Our forwards (Shawn Marion can thank commenter OaL for noticing that our writer mistakenly left him out on his first draft.):

West All-Star Worthy Forwards (2012)
Player MP WP48 WP
Kevin Love 908 0.256 4.8
Kevin Durant 824 0.236 4.0
Paul Millsap 662 0.251 3.5
Gerald Wallace 756 0.209 3.3
Shawn Marion 704 0.213 3.1
East All-Star Worthy Forwards  (2012)
Player MP WP48 WP
LeBron James 825 0.375 6.5
Andre Iguodala 799 0.284 4.7
Ryan Anderson 666 0.264 3.7
Marvin Williams 480 0.273 2.7
Kris Humphries 751 0.170 2.7

and our centers:

West All-Star Worthy Centers (2012)
Player MP WP48 WP
 Marc Gasol 779 0.218 4.0
 Samuel Dalembert 565 0.264 3.1
 DeAndre Jordan 621 0.236 3.1
East All-Star Worthy Centers (2012)
Player MP WP48 WP
 Tyson Chandler 783 0.359 5.9
Dwight Howard 865 0.244 4.4
Anderson Varejao 879 0.245 3.4

Who got in

Here’s a brief reminder of who was voted in courtesy of nba.com.

Eastern Conference
F — Carmelo Anthony, New York
F — LeBron James, Miami
C — Dwight Howard, Orlando
G — Derrick Rose, Chicago
G — Dwyane Wade, Miami

Western Conference 
F — Blake Griffin, L.A. Clippers
F — Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City
C — Andrew Bynum, L.A. Lakers
G — Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers
G — Chris Paul, L.A. Clippers

The fans got it right

Let’s start out east. James and Howard were easily the right call by using both last year and this year. Out west Chris Paul was an easy pick and Durant bounced back from a slightly off year and is playing outstanding. I give full kudos to the voters.

The fans have a possible case for

Derrick Rose was by no means a bad pick. I’d be a little irked if I was Landry Fields or Ray Allen though. To be fair Landry Fields did have a slow start to the season and with a shortened voting period that’s a killer (let’s be honest though, he never had a chance.) Wade is having a slow start thanks to injury. However given his sublime play last season and the fact that he seems to be reverting back to his old form I’m fine with him starting as well.

Last season Andrew Bynum put up the second best per minute stats of any center right behind Dwight Howard. This season he’s in the top ten for centers and that’s with him missing four games due to suspension. He’s still not the top center out west, at least not yet. Still he’s about as good as the alternatives, so the fans are fine here. (Thanks Patrick for catching a silly writer’s mistake in thinking Tyson Chandler was still out west)

Last season Kobe was simply not an elite player. He does have one edge though. The west is fairly weak when it comes to shooting guards. Last season I’d rank him 5th behind Manu Ginobili, Arron Afflalo, Thabo Sefolosha and James Harden. This season his play has improved and with Ginobili being out with injury and Arron Afflalo not playing like he did last season then Kobe is actually the second best shooting guard out west. So IF the fans wanted a correct backcourt (a point guard and a shooting guard) and if they underrated Harden (which is easy to believe) and they give Kobe some legacy credit then he earns his spot. I’d still say Nash, who is playing amazing for his age, should have gotten the start but I’m not too mad about it.

The fans are dead wrong

Last season Melo ranked 100th in the league in Wins Produced right behind Grant Hill. That’s right, Grant Hill in his 30s played better than Melo in his prime last season. Not only that, Melo put up 0.088 Wins per 48 minutes, which is below average. This season Melo is still playing below average with a WP48 of 0.067. Melo simply has no place on an All-Star and given New York’s woes and all of the flack Melo is getting I’m amazed he was voted in.

I am a big fan of Blake Griffin. He had an amazing rookie season and is playing well this season (although he is appearing to have a sophomore slump) In either case the reason I put Griffin on this list is that there is no way Kevin Love should not be starting the All-Star game. When we compare Love and Griffin there are only two places Griffin comes out ahead: assists and blocks. I’ll grant you that Griffin’s baskets may look more impressive but the fact is that the ugly baskets count too. Even if Love weren’t around the fact is Paul Millsap is also having a killer year and Gerald Wallace has been a top five forward in the west for the last two seasons. Griffin is a good player but the west is chocked full of great forwards and Griffin is not better than any of them (at least not yet)

Summing up

When the All-Star game comes up a popular opinion is that the fans should get to vote who they want in. I won’t even dispute this as those are, in fact, the rules. When we look at what drives attendance in sports the answer is winning. It is possible fans do not fully understand what is causing their teams to win. It is also possible I suppose that fans would prefer to see Melo chuck up shots and lose the game, but I would certainly hope not.

-Dre

10 thoughts on “Why Melo has no place in the All-Star game

  1. You DO know that New York is in the East, so it’d be a little hard for Tyson Chandler to be the best center in the West…unless I missed something…

  2. I love these articles that compare raw stats and never look at context. It’s basically data mining with no real analysis. While I know the Kobe debate is tiresome, his is a perfect example of the lack of true analysis being performed. Just plugging in numbers and calling it statistics doesn’t make it intellectual or right. Trying to compare Kobe, Harden and Afflalo using the exact same metrics (ignoring team play, style, responsibilities) is ridiculous. Having a true PG set up the SG probably helps but with the Lakes, it’s Kobe’s job to set up the offense, he doesn’t have Westbrook/Billups/Felton/Lawson collpasing defenses for open shots. (Editor’s note: What are your thoughts on Gasol, Bynum and in previous seasons Odom?)

    The teams and the systems they run are COMPLETELY different. Just sitting back and pretending that all of the players run the same system (and so WP48 is fair and objective) seems willfully ignorant. It’s like comparing a wide receiver at Texas Tech to one at Alabama; they’re asked to do vastly different things. Editor’s note: Willfully ignorant seems a bit strong, especially considering the lack of evidence in counter reply. And no, using a football metaphor does not count as evidence.)

  3. OaL,
    Thanks readers for keeping me on the ball. I may have to put a map up in front of me next time I do conference postings. I’ve fixed the error, thanks again!

  4. Part of it comes down to who the fans want to see play, not necessarily who they think is the best – that’s why I can’t really blame them for putting Griffin in. I mean, who doesn’t want to see awesome dunks? Still, I actually can’t understand why people would vote for Carmelo. Like you said, who wants to see a player who can’t shoot that well huck up bad shots? Especially when Iguodala is playing so well AND his team is ultra successful. Plus Iggy is way more fun to watch than Melo in my opinion. Regardless, I think we’ll have even more to gripe about when the coaches pick the reserves

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